Has this every happened to anyone before???

(. Really Kim, after that first one, did
everything start going to be better. Did you still feel the fissure for
a while or just incision sight pain ?

The fissure itself never really gave me pain much. It wasn't the BM that hurt, but the spasms afterwards. So as soon as I got the LIS (and got over those first couple BMs) I was just sore from the surgery. But it is sheer heck to have been cut down there and then get constipated, which is basically what happened to me. Just don't let *that* happen and you'll be fine!

Thanks buddy for everything. I am trying to stay cool but I think Wednesday (the day before) I will start freaking out.
That is what I believed about myself, but I got a very strange calm just before my surgery(ies) and I was not afraid. You're gonna be okeedokee, and once you get over the recovery period, your life is going to be back on track! I just know it!

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawe KIM, you are the BEST XOXO !!!!! I really need somebody to believe that this "move" is right one since I wonder still should i wait a little more - but that would be ridiculous after all I tried - healed completely and opened a NEW one ! My muscle just got into some permanent over spasming condition and it needs to be "put in place" so to speak.

It is interesting that you did not have pain during BM - oh boy - any time I go I "give birth to pineapple" , that is how much it hurts : (((((, although my BM is medium soft, no hard tip, not even bulky : (. Spasming is there all the time - not as painful as with my anterior fissure, but I know it is there- when you can't even pass the gass without much effort - well, it s there ....

Did your Doc tell you to stop using any herbal supplements or medications prior the surgery ? Mine is very "nonchalant" regarding that, but I know that some surgeons don't like patients taking some stuff even a week ahead.

Thanks a bunch my friend - maybe I will visit Australia one day too : )

No, I have heard people describe this excrutiating agony of passing a stool like passing spikes of glass shards. Horrible sounding pain, but I never had much pain diring the BM (except some burning on the occasion of a loose stool). But the spasms kicked in every day for hours. Anout 30-90 minutes after the BM.

I was told not to take my supplements, yes. But they didn't make any big deal anout it, it was just one of the things written on their handout.

I would get spasming regardless of my stool consistency, unless there was just VERY little of it. I noticed, too, that on the days I took a second BM, I didn't usually get any spasming from that. Very strange.

So, your procedure is this wednesday?

Now, what's this business about Australia?

Sorry Kimmy - for some reason I always thought you are a "ahoy mate " guy : ) ?!? Did I mixed up something ??? Sorry if I did, ha ha, well, where are you than located : ) ?

No, my procedure is Thursday ( keh ...keh..I see how you read ALL of my posts, ha ha ha JK...JK.. , who would have a time to read my "epic" stories ; ))). BUT, I think that Wednesday it will "hit me" ; ), the reality of it all (brrrrrrrrrr...).

Can you tell me if you used any kind of dressing o your wound or any kind of antibiotic cream and such. Was there a lot of bleeding ?

Thank you for telling me about supplements, I was wondering because fish oil and garlic are blood thinners and I surely don't need that to interfere with my healing. Vit. C can interfere with local anesthetics, I just found out !!!! So, off the supplements I go !

Do you think your pain meds. caused your constipation ? Do you have any idea how to prevent it ? Would MOM help if I take it every day?

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Naw, I'm just from plain old Georgia, USA.

BUT, I think that Wednesday it will "hit me" ; ), the reality of it all (brrrrrrrrrr...). Well, get your mind off of it all you can. Think of it as them taking out a splinter! No, OK, I know that won't work!

Yes, I do think the pain meds helped cause my constipation, I got LOTS while I was in the hospital but I shouldn't have asked for as much as they offered! Plus I just went right off the diet, because I was thinking, "OK, they offered me normal junkfood like burgers while I was in the hospital, that stuff must be OK!" But it wasn't Ok!!

Yes, it cannot hurt one whit to get off the supplements. The good they do is outweighed by the potential side effects; you can start them back pretty soon anyway!

I think I would probably take the MOM or whatever might keep you regular the days immediately following the procedure. Why not? I have heard MANY people who just had LIS say that the first BM was no problem at all. I caused my own problems with the pain meds and falling off the diet.

While I was in the hospital they has a loose dressing on my tail which the nurse(s) checked occasionally. Off it came right before I checked out.

Georgia Peach you are ; ) !!!!! ??? That is nice state - I have some friends in Atlanta, they like it a lot - except traffic - but I guess there is no big city in USA without bad traffic !!!!

Thanks for the tips : ) ! My biggest fear is actually that since I will just have a sedation, that they will THINK that I don't feel anything but that I WOULD feel and not be able to say it ; (((((. My CRS also said that I should not be afraid of my first BM, that many people are surprised how uneventful it actually is.

You know - BOTH of CRS-s that work there absolutely INSIST that I immediately start eating normal diet and only metamucil is allowed and only twice a day. I can take MOM only if I do not have my BM in 2 days. They said that "that area " must be exercised -period : (. I don't now, we will see I guess.
VERY SOON _ AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA !!!!!!

Lecia
I took a step back this week and bleeding and inflammation came back. Its so weird. I think i am out of the woods and it comes back. I got stressed out and didnt drink water and sat in a Sales meeting for a week. I guess the sitting, food i couldnt eat and no water and alot of stress got the best out of me. I pray one day this thing will go away. I want the surgery but cant do it due to the docs saying if i have IBS i will not make it to the tolit in time enough due to the procedure of cutting the muscle gives you little time to run to the bathroom. I just dont know how long i will have to live with this fissure and abcess? How long have you been living with your fissure? Mine is deep into the canal.

johnny - i am almost 3 months out from my second LIS surgery. i'm still not near 100%. i know my situation isn't typical, but i've been doing EVERYTHING right for almost a year now and am not completely healed. i think if the actual fissure site gives you problems, rather than spasms, the LIS doesn't help you heal as quick as it would for someone like Kim who only experienced spasming. for me it's been the external part of the fissure, the part that i can see and that hurts when i poo, that isn't healing.

bherna - as far as having little time to run to the bathroom when i've gotta go, that is not that case at all. i've had 2 LIS surgeries and i have no sense of urgency and no incontinence issues at all. i don't think many people do after surgery. i'm not sure how IBS would affect that but maybe you should consult someone else for their opinion.

bherna - as far as having little time to run to the bathroom when i've gotta go, that is not that case at all. i've had 2 LIS surgeries and i have no sense of urgency and no incontinence issues at all. i don't think many people do after surgery. i'm not sure how IBS would affect that but maybe you should consult someone else for their opinion.
I felt the same way while reading Bernard's post. I was able to "hold it" very well, there was never any urgency that I would not make it to the toilet in time. I would definitely get a second opinion on that. Of course, I can't speak for the IBS.
I did poop in my pants about two days out, but only becuase I had taken laxatives and and got the runs...which I mistook as "wind" and thought I was just f@rting... Telling the difference between loose poop and wind *is* an issue right after the surgery but very transitory. Not even an issue to consider if one wants to heal and get over the AF, I would think.

Bernard,
I had my fissure for 4 months-it was a result of an exteral hemorrhoid excision. But I have had rectal problems for 5 years and understand how down it can make you. There are times when I think very little in my life is ever going to change and I am going to be at the mercy of my butt for the rest of my life. There are times when I think I don't want to live to 70 or 80 if it is going to be like this.

One thing that helps me is to try to control the pain. Maybe you can try taking (4) 200 mg advil 2-3 times a day and see if that helps. I bet your setback was because of your stressful week but I bet you are going to rebound faster.

I don't know about the LIS surgery in your case. I think it could help get more blood flow down there to heal the area but I couldn't have the surgery either because of an underlying medical condition (pudendal neuropathy).

I have wondered about using a hyperbaric chamber that they use for non healing wounds. Though probably not covered by insurance in this case, if you can afford a few sessions maybe that would help.

Sorry. I know how frustrating all of this is. I have about had it myself!!!

Lecia

Thanks for all your comments and understanding.
Take Care
Bernard

Hey Bernard,

Perhaps you should try the botox. It relaxes the sphincter temporarily.

There was a part of the surgical cut that was quite deep on me and it was the last bit to heal. Infact, it kept getting reinjured because it was on the front lines, so to speak. The botox really helped that in about 2 weeks. I haven't had any pain in that place since that time.