Fissure hell!

Subject: Re: Fissure hell! May 14th 2008, 12:35 pm

Back from the hospital. The other CRS agreed with my primary CRS. No LIS operation for me. They wanted to give me another botox shot with a very high dose. If this was a succes and the fissure healed and my discomfort went away then they were willing to do the LIS.?!?But if the third botox fails they where gonna send me to another hospital. The CRS maybe thought i could have Internal prolapse (intussusception) - Part of the wall of the colon (large intestine) may slide into or over another part, much like the moving parts of the telescope. The tissue does not hang out of the body. It occurs inside (internal).

Symptoms of a rectal prolapse may be:

Leakage of stool
Bleeding, anal pain, itching, irritation
Tissue that protrudes from the rectum
Other accompanying symptoms may be:

A feeling of having full bowels and an urgent need to have a bowel movement
Passage of many very small stools
The feeling of not being able to empty the bowels completely

I have absolutly no leakage of stool and the bleeding have stopped months ago. They didn`t check up on me. Just talking. They wil do that on friday.

I am desperate to get better Sad

My total life has been ripped apart... I don`t know what else to do Sad

Subject: Re: Fissure hell! May 14th 2008, 12:55 pm

Hey Lars,

Sorry you are not feeling well. Sad

Maybe when they look on Friday you will get more encouraging news. Not sure if it makes sense to have LIS if the fissure healed with botox?? unless they think it could come back?

Hoping you have a painfree sunny

day, I know you need it.

huggies

Jo

Subject: Re: Fissure hell! May 14th 2008, 1:20 pm

i'm not sure why they'd say you have a prolapse without doing an actual exam. ??? if you don't have any of the symptoms it doesn't make sense. Find another dr as soon as you can, hopefully someone else can correctly diagnose you and offer some more solutions.

I know what you mean about this ripping your life apart. It can definitely seem never ending when you're suffering everyday. But try not to despair. we all feel your pain and desperation!

Subject: Re: Fissure hell! May 14th 2008, 1:33 pm

Hi Lars,
Sorry you are in such pain Crying or Very sad

You really have had your fair share Sad

I really hope Friday brings some better news for you and you get a decent doctor who will listen to you!
I do wish you well....

Welcome to this wonderful forum by the way Very Happy

Subject: Re: Fissure hell! May 14th 2008, 2:14 pm

Hi Lars. that sounds just awful hopefully the super dose of botox will do the trick.

Subject: Re: Fissure hell! May 15th 2008, 4:26 am

Hello everybody

The reason for doing LIS if the third botox was a succes where based on that I then had a tight muscle who needed to be cut permanently.
The case with Internal prolapse seems very strange to me.
The symptoms I have is anal pain, itching, irritation and that "something" sits in anal area.

I have a appointment with a private hospital next saturday. If the CRS thinks a LIS operation can help me if the botox fails i`m gonna jump up on the table in no time Smile

Subject: Re: Fissure hell! May 15th 2008, 9:12 am

It doesn't seem that they have any strong evidence that would point to a rectal prolapse other than your symptoms which could be explained by many other things, like internal hemorrhoids. They can do some defecography studies to determine if you actually have this.

From what I understand, this type of prolapse occurs mostly in later adulthood or with continued straining, or nerve injury. I have mucosal (lining of rectum) prolapse but that is because I experienced trauma to the area when giving birth.

I think they will rule this out pretty quickly for you though-maybe they just want to cover their bases. Good luck tomorrow.
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Subject: Re: Fissure hell! May 15th 2008, 11:22 am

i get that feeling of something "sitting" in the anal canal too, often towards the end of the night. i especially feel it if i eat too big of a meal. i don't remember noticing this until i had my first LIS though. i've never thought too much about it, except that maybe my sphincter is weaker from 2 surgeries or maybe i just need to eat less. it's scary to think it could be a prolapse or something else horrible!! i hope another dr rules that out for you. i've heard other fissure sufferers complain of the same thing though.

Subject: Re: Fissure hell! May 15th 2008, 11:22 am

i get that feeling of something "sitting" in the anal canal too, often towards the end of the night. i especially feel it if i eat too big of a meal. i don't remember noticing this until i had my first LIS though. i've never thought too much about it, except that maybe my sphincter is weaker from 2 surgeries or maybe i just need to eat less. it's scary to think it could be a prolapse or something else horrible!! i hope another dr rules that out for you. i've heard other fissure sufferers complain of the same thing though.

Subject: Re: Fissure hell! May 15th 2008, 12:58 pm

Hello

Maybe if I am very very lucky it is internal hemmies who is making me belive it still is the fissure who hurts! I have never thought about it before since the CRS never have mentioned hemmies since I gotta a fissure. Time will have the answer. I pray that the botox *3will do the trick Smile

Subject: Re: Fissure hell! May 15th 2008, 1:36 pm

hang in there larskenn.......

i will pray that your 3rd botox will do the trick.

and also rather than prolapse thingy, that it may be hemmys.......

try to remain calm......
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yikes!

Subject: Re: Fissure hell! May 15th 2008, 5:05 pm

All the best Lars !!! Hopefully you will come back with great news - it is about time that somebody does cheers

Subject: Re: Fissure hell! May 15th 2008, 10:48 pm

Wow, if the third botox doesn't do it, I'd be *very* surprised!
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Subject: Re: Fissure hell! May 15th 2008, 11:33 pm

Lars -

I hope the Botox works and keep us updated! I think they need to do a exam before the tell you about rectal prolapse! Keep us updated! Let me know how the botox goes - it maybe my next step - who knows.

Did you get the abcess from complications of the Rubber banding? I just had the banding done and I am terrified of an infection.

Jen

Subject: Re: Fissure hell! May 16th 2008, 9:34 am

Hello everyone

Back from the hospital with good news. At last did the CRS see i had an incredible tight inner anal muscle. It stood in constant spasm.. Finaly he belived me. Smile

The CRS used Xyloproct cream before the did the botox. I felt instant relief Smile

Of course some pain but nothing like before. The fissure itself where almost healed and I had of course inner hemmies. I got a rbl on one of them. Hard to say if it is the xyloproct or botox that made me feel better. I will be able to tell that later on when the xyloproct effect goes away. But I think this turned the tide!

Jen: No I didn`t get the abcess from the rubber banding. That`s a piece of cake Smile

One morning I just waked up with a real pain in the butt....

Thank you everybody for the great support! I will continue to use this site even after I am totaly healed. I`m sure I will be in a couple of months/weeks. If that fails I`m 100% sure the LIS operation does Smile