Fissure hell!

Subject: Re: Fissure hell! May 22nd 2008, 2:41 pm

Hello Kim
I am going to a private hospital on saturday. I hope he agrees with me. I am maybe begining to wonder if there is something else wrong with me....Could there maybe be a abcess beniht the fissure even thought the fissure itself i nearly healed? It there anymore else tests to do beside a anoscopi in the rectum?

Subject: Re: Fissure hell! May 22nd 2008, 2:49 pm

It is possible you have an abscess, but you described the clenching, so I have to assume that is sphincter spasms. For some of us they can last almost all day. The LIS will fix that problem immediately.

I think the anoscope is about it as for examining the area. Unless someone else has any ideas.

If I recall you have had this problem for some time. With me, the longer I waited, the longer it took each day for my butt to settle down. At first I was just having spasms half the day and felt better later. Near the end my butt hurt almost all day, though not necessarily from spasms.

Subject: Re: Fissure hell! May 22nd 2008, 3:04 pm

Lars , I am sorry to hear that your initial success reversed - but it is sooooo typical of fissure - it is the worst torture device that exists since it does not only produce extreme physical pain but emotional too due to constant ups and downs : (((.

Anoscopy is standard exam for fissures, fistulas, abscess and hemmies. If they suspect inflammatory processes in the colon, they would use colonoscopy - but no reason to do that in your case, obviously.

Your symptoms sound like sphincter spasms by all means and I had them 24/7 - I don't know how I lived with that for 5 months.
Well, being home bound and mostly in bed can't be considered "life" in its full meaning - so I practically "did not live".

I wish you super successful consultations with your new doctor and I hope you will be pain free very soon !!!

All the best !!!

Subject: Re: Fissure hell! May 22nd 2008, 3:11 pm

Hey

I just don`t understand it.... On friday I was 90% fine and now I an about 50% Sad

Maybe the super dose of botox just lasted a few days on me? I do not feel "light and smaller" down there anymore....Is I possible that even LIS won`t help me?(because I`m to tight I mean)

Subject: Re: Fissure hell! May 22nd 2008, 3:28 pm

The LIS should fix the tightness, it did for me. Botox is less effective and in your case, it could have been injected wrong or there could be any number of reasons why it didnt work well. Most people need more than one treatment for it to heal their fissures.

LIS will almost certainly help, but there are some for whom it hasn't helped, but in the vast majority of cases, it does "cure" the fissure.
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Subject: Re: Fissure hell! May 22nd 2008, 3:29 pm

Oh Lars - I wish I can give you super success example with my case - but you have to remember that I am an exception - I have "super sphincter" unfortunately and also because I am a woman who had 2 babies they assumed that my sphincter must be somewhat relaxed anyway. Well, they were wrong and they did cut too little Evil or Very Mad

. and that is why I still have some problems. I got a fissure again but I have no spasms this time around and it made a huge difference in itself so I am glad I had LIS anyway. If you look closely you will see that most guys here had no big further problems after LIS regarding fissures , except Eric. It seams that guys have better results but not because they are guys but because doctors , in my opinion, do better (bigger) cuts and really relax that damn muscle correctly. Only 2 weeks after my LIS I was warned by second CRS that my muscle might not be relaxed enough for fissure to heal fully and she was obviously right Sad

. It did heal but over time my muscle even regained some of its strength and it caused new fissure to appear. Now, if I were you, I would make sure that CRS has in mind the strength and the size of your muscle before he performs LIS if you decide to have one. Also, it is possible to have a second LIS - which I might have in the future Crying or Very sad

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Yes, it is possible to feel completely pain free and than to have complete reversal in a day, Botox or not Sad

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Hang in there Lars - I am sure that you will find help because you are actively looking for it and NO it does not mean that you will have this problem for life - some people do , but those are exceptions!

Best of luck with everything sunny

Subject: Re: Fissure hell! May 22nd 2008, 3:43 pm

Thanks for the kind words Smile

Kim: This is the third round of botox I have tried. The other 2 times I have not feelt any different but this time I feelt alot more wider down there instantly. Wider = less pain .) This lasted for 3-4 days. My fissure is almost healed so it must be the spasm or other things who is making me hurt/have discomfort. Maybe the soreness/itch/burn comes from the fissure though...

Subject: Re: Fissure hell! May 22nd 2008, 3:58 pm

I am sorry to read this Lars,
Goodluck for Saturday, I hope your new doctor is more understanding to the pain you have ......
Sending lots of healing vibes
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Subject: Re: Fissure hell! May 22nd 2008, 4:37 pm

yes, so sorry Lars, good luck for saturday, spasm pain is truly the worst pain EVER, I hope they can do something to help.

Subject: Re: Fissure hell! May 22nd 2008, 4:37 pm

Yes, Lars. The itching, the burning and I am sure the soreness is all at the actual site of the fissure. Your intuition seems correct.

Stools that are runny or too loose always caused the horrible burning for me.

The itching could be a good sign, it could be the healing itch, but since you are still having problems I would not count on that. But maybe! Smile

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Subject: Re: Fissure hell! May 23rd 2008, 7:02 am

Kim: What where the spasm pain for you?

Today I`m better and feel less tight down there..Have had 2 BM without little pain/discomfort. This thing is killing me since I don`t find a pattern to it all. The pain can come without I have had an BM.. Does this sound familiar to some off you?

Subject: Re: Fissure hell! May 23rd 2008, 7:35 am

Lars, i am glad things are feeling better today,
That is the joy of a fissure, it gives no warning, and no pattern , my pain was always caused by going for a BM then that pain would last all day at one point !

I assume you are doing all you can for soft BMS ?
Do you take any stool softeners ? maybe this would help i use miralax- movicol it helps bigtime!!!
Hang in there bud !

Subject: Re: Fissure hell! May 23rd 2008, 8:20 am

I think I may have gotten the spasms once or twice without having had a BM. It was hard to localize exactly where the clenching feeling was,it was just like my whole butt was clenching up.

I was upset too when I could not find a pattern to the misery, that is typical of AF.
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Lars,

I would also recomment Miralax. We can buy it over the counter here, but it is a trick to regulate the correct amount. Here's to a pain-free butt day for all.

Subject: Re: Fissure hell! May 23rd 2008, 9:35 am

Sorry to hear that you are in pain again but that does seem to be de rigeur for all of us. I hope that the doctor can help you on Saturday and I imagine it isn't anything complicating your healing. Just keep things soft and watch your diet, and see what your options are.

Hang in there!
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